Whence Hell? - Part 14

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Disciples - Fifth Occasion


[5]  "You will not leave My [Jesus'] soul in hell [hades/unseen]" (Act 2:27)


Later, in the same message:


"Christ... His soul was not left in hell [hades/unseen]" (Act 2:31)


Full context:

Luke repeats prophecy from Psalms:


Psa 16:10  For thou wilt not leave My [Jesus] soul in hell [sheol/hades]; neither wilt Thou suffer Thine Holy One to see corruption.


If hell is a hellhole of eternal torture in fire, do Christians believe that Jesus went to such a place?


Yes, they absolutely do: Some think he went to the suffering department and suffered the pain of being burned in fire for three days, while others teach that he only went to a compartment that contained the souls of bygone, deceased saints and patriarchs.

Regardless, both thoughts are un-Scriptural.

The "hell" that Jesus' soul went to is the Greek hades, which is translated in this verse from the Hebrew sheol, which we've seen proved over and over again in previous blogs.

Hades is the realm or state of the dead.  Literally, the "unseen", the "imperceptible".

Jesus' soul (like the patriarchs of old), did not go to any physical or geographical location, but rather went to the state or realm of the dead.

They put dead bodies into graves, but they don't put souls anywhere.

Until the Spirit of man is returned to a new body, his soul does not exist anywhere, but rather is in a condition of non-existence until his Spirit which returns to God is reunited to a new body.

As C. S. Lewis said: "You don't have a soul, you ARE a soul, you HAVE a body."

In other words, there is no soul without a body.  The soul does not continue to exist - that is total un-Scriptural and pagan nonsense.  It is straight out of "The Book of the Dead" from the Egyptians, not the Holy Scriptures of God.

Contrary to orthodox Christianity : "Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures"(1 Cor 15:3).

When someone dies, they are DEAD.

Can we know, from the Scriptures, whether someone who is put to death, as Jesus was, is dead or not?

Yes we can.  God Himself has told us so:

Jos 1:1-2  Now AFTER the death of Moses the servant of the LORD it came to pass, that the LORD spoke unto Joshua the son of Nun, Moses' minister, saying, Moses My servant is DEAD.

Did God say, "Moses is not dead... he's here with me in Heaven"?

No... God told Joshua "Moses My servant is DEAD".

When Jesus died for the sins of the world, He was also "dead."

If Jesus was not dead, as theologians and many Christians believe, then we don't have a Saviour.

God the Father did not send Jesus' "body" to be the "Saviour of the world".

1 Cor 15:3  For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures.

It was "CHRIST" Who died for our sins and it was "CHRIST" Who was DEAD and conquered death through His resurrection.

When people "die", they are "dead".

Jesus "died", and Jesus was "dead".

And therefore, it is Jesus Who is the Savior of the World, not His earthly "body" or His "cadaver".

1 Jn 4:14  And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent [Gk: 'send out on a mission'--hence a commission] the Son [Who? 'the Son.' The Son's body? NO, 'THE SONto be the Savior of the world.

Are we to believe that the "Savior of the world" was a "cadaver" - the dead body of Jesus?  Is that what the Father commissioned?  NO, the Father commissioned "THE SON [Jesus] to be the Savior of the world."

Who or what "died for our sins"?  Someone's "body"?

So why do orthodox Christian theologians teach that Jesus NEVER DIED, and since only His "body" died, then His "body" must be "the Savior of the world."

Why do theologians teach such un-Scriptural nonsense?

Do the dead know that they are dead, or do they know anything at all?

Ecc 9:5  For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not ANYTHING.

Even most uneducated people and most children know that when someone like their Uncle Ralph dies, he is dead.

But go to a theological seminary for five to ten years, and they will convince you that when Uncle Ralph died, he is still alive at one of two possible locations.

Rom 1:22  Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools

Jesus was not off in heaven, or down in hell with the wicked sinners in fire, or in a compartment of sheol with the patriarchs, or in some place called paradise with the thief that died with Him.

No, Jesus was not gallivanting somewhere up in the clouds or down in some pagan hell.

Jesus commended His Spirit to the Father (Luk 23:46), the same Spirit as the Father which returns unto Him who gave it.

How could Jesus say that He had not yet ascended after His resurrection (Joh 20:17), if all the while His soul had been consciously in the presence of His Father?

Jesus was exactly where He said He would be for three days - "in the heart of the earth" which is a Hebrew idiom for His death in which the grave hides Him.  Why is it so hard to believe the Scriptures rather than men?

Yes, Jesus "... bare our sins in His own body on the tree..." (1 Pet 2:24).

And, yes Joseph "... went to Pilate, and begged the body of Jesus.  Then Pilate commanded the body to be delivered.  And when Joseph had taken the body, he wrapped IT [not Him, not Jesus - the body - IT] in a clean linen cloth, And laid IT [not Him, not Jesus - the body - IT] in his own new tomb" (Mat 27:58-60).

Of course Jesus had a body and His body was dead.

But was it just the "body of" Jesus and not Jesus Himself that was in the tomb three days?

Mat 28:5-6  And the angel answered and said unto the women, Fear not ye: for I know that ye seek Jesus, which was crucified.  He [Jesus] is not here: for He [Jesus] is risen.

Was Jesus in the tomb?

Absolutely.  But was "HE" still there after the sun came up Sunday morning?

No, "HE [Jesus] is risen."

And now for the rest of the Angel's statement: "Come, see the place where the LORD LAY" (Verse 7).

Did the angel limit Christ's sacrifice by suggesting that only "the cadaver lay" in the tomb.  No.  Where the dead body lay?  No.

WHO "lay" in that tomb?

What do the Scriptures, not men, say "lay" in that tomb?

Mat 28:6  Come, see the place where the LORD LAY.

If we cannot see such a simple truth, as when one dies he is dead, then we are far from ever learning the purpose for our very existence.

Jesus died, and was DEAD. When they put Jesus' body in the tomb, they put JESUS in the tomb.

When Jesus died for the sins of the world; Jesus was dead, not just His body.

And when Jesus rose from the dead, it was not just His body. It is JESUS Who is the "Savior of the world," and not just a corpse, a body, a cadaver...

Christians have taught the world that man can't die.  That he has an immortal soul that cannot die... when people die they are not really dead.  That at death people "go somewhere."

It is all un-Scriptural, pagan nonsense.

Jesus' soul, His sentient being, His intellect, feelings, emotions, and heart, which define the human soul, went into a state of "imperceptibility".

His soul was in the realm or state of hades which literally translates as "the unseen", "the imperceptible", "the state of death", "the realm of the dead", the sheol of the Hebrew and hades of the Greek.

How could Jesus "GO to Heaven", or "GO to a place called Abraham's Bosom", or "GO to hell", or "GO to a place called Paradise", when the Scriptures tell us that Jesus was so dead that it took others to carry Him into the tomb?






















Some of these excerpts are from my personal notes copied from 30+ years of studying... some of these notes are direct copies of various sources - I do not claim to have authored every word of this... it's just a mass collection I've tucked away over the years for my own personal studies... I didn't consider a bibliography at the time I directly copied small excerpts from various authors.  Also, any emphasis (underlines, bold text, all CAPS, etc.) noted above was only meant to capture my personal attention as I studied...

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